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REAL OR FAKE 4K

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There Are REAL And There Are FAKE 4K Movies & Shows – But All Are Better Than 1080pHD

This is an awesome website that we came across that should be your GO-TO source in verifying which movies are real 4K and which ones are Upconverted from 2K.  This all has to do with how the particular film was “Mastered”.  

Mastering is the term used to describe what kind of film speed/camera was used in the production of the movie or show.  This site  ( realorfake4k.com ) has verified and documented most of the purported 4K films.  For example, a network or company might call the movie “4K”, however it might NOT have been mastered in 4K using a 4K camera systems.  

This DOES make a huge difference!

A film mastered in 4K, which is a.k.a. “Native 4K or Real 4K” will have a significantly higher quality picture image that is crisp, sharp and contains true 3,820 X 2,160 pixel arrangement.  

These are the films that when you watch them….you feel like you are looking through a window right at the real scene on the screen.  It literally makes you feel like you are there.

On the other hand, films that were mastered in 2K HD which is also known as just High Definition or 1080p, (2K is comparable to 4K in that both pixel count numbers are rounded up to the nearest 1,000.  For example 2K is 1080HD rounded up to 2K.  And 4K is 3,820 HD rounded to 4K) might be called “4K”, but actually they are UPSCALED or UPCONVERTED  (both of these terms meaning the same exact thing)  from 720 or 1080HD to higher pixelation in between 1080 and 3,820.  

So, basically a 2K mastered film UPCONVERTED to 4K is NOT going to be as high quality as a truly 4K mastered film called 4K UHD—>(Ultra High Definition).

This site  (realorfake4k.com) is a great way to determine the difference so that you know exactly what you are watching.  Allow us to make it clear that BOTH Upconverted 4K films as well as 4K mastered films are much better image picture quality than either 720Hd or 1080p HD.  But, at least you can know the difference and choose to watch exactly what you want.

Most of all, you will never become disappointed with your new 4K TV if the picture is lacking in your mind, as long as know that it was an upscaled version of 4K ( Fake 4K) versus the real, native 4K made film that is the best-of-the best in 4K content.

My opinion is that when I turn on my 4K SONY TV, I usually want to watch a film that shows me the absolute best picture image that could possibly exist.  This means that I am searching for TRUE 4K mastered, native 4K content.  Therefore, I go directly to the “Real Or Fake 4K” website and I verify the movies on their lists.

 


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Below are some screen shots right off of the Real Or Fake 4K website pertaining to certain movies we chose.  These are examples of what you will find on their site.  This information will help you make an informed decision on what kind of quality content you choose to watch on your 4K television.  

At least you will know exactly which 4K content was mastered in TRUE 4K format with 4K camera systems and which is 4K Upconverted from 2K filming.  And, YES, you can tell the difference after watching some 4K mastered films versus 4K Upconverted films from 2K mastered.  (Yes, very confusing, we agree).

*NOTE:   For your convenience, you can purchase the 4K movies & shows that you want right here on our site.  LOOK for links below to Amazon.

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narcos

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Narcos is the real deal.  Everything was digitally shot in 4K or the original 35/70 mm film negative was

scanned in 4K and all the mastering / editing was done in 4K.

This is one of the rare examples of a show being 100% finished in 4K including VFX work.

This is a Netflix original series and its amazingly well produced. We enjoyed watching the entire 10 episode show.

Watch in real 4K on NETFLIX

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4K mastered blacklist

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Blacklist is the real deal.  Everything was digitally shot in 4K or the original 35/70 mm film negative was

scanned in 4K and all the mastering / editing was done in 4K.

This is one of the rare examples of a show being 100% finished in 4K including VFX work.

This is a Netflix original series as well and its amazingly well produced. We enjoyed watching the entire 10 episode show.

Buy 4K Blu-Ray UHD from AMAZON

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4K mastered show

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Marco Polo is the real deal.  Everything was digitally shot in 4K or the original 35/70 mm film negative was

scanned in 4K and all the mastering / editing was done in 4K.

This is one of the rare examples of a show being 100% finished in 4K including VFX work.

This is a Netflix original series as well and it is amazingly well produced. We enjoyed watching this historical show.

Watch in 4K on NETFLIX

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4K tv show

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Thats My Boy is the real deal.  Everything was digitally shot in 4K or the original 35/70 mm film negative was

scanned in 4K and all the mastering / editing was done in 4K.

This is one of the rare examples of a show being 100% finished in 4K including VFX work.

This is an AMAZON movie.  You can stream it via any device.

Purchase on AMAZON 4K Blu-Ray UHD

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4K movie

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fake 4K

It is not real 4K in any material way due to having a final master at 2K.  Studios have upscaled the 2K image to 4K and retouched the

content for your 4K UHD TV.  You should see some visual improvement over a standard 1080p Blu-ray.  Check the information below to see if the studios

have upgraded the video with HDR or added immersive Dolby Atmos or DTS:X audio tracks.

Shot on 35mm

VFX Rendered in 2K

Digital Intermediate at 2K

Buy 4K UHD from Amazon

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4K hunger games

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fake 4K

It is not real 4K in any material way due to having a final master at 2K.  Studios have upscaled the 2K image to 4K and

retouched the content for your 4K UHD TV.  You should see some visual improvement over a standard 1080p Blu-ray.

Check the information below to see if the studios have upgraded the video with HDR or added immersive Dolby Atmos or DTS:X audio tracks.

Shot on 35mm

VFX Rendered in 2K

Digital Intermediate at 2K

Buy 4K UHD from Amazon

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Comments

  1. Hi Matt

    Thanks for the great article, I never realized that the movie studios were doing this. Is this just the movie studios being “cheap” and shooting in 2K or is there a good reason why they do this? What sort of price range am I looking at for a good 4K TV to watch this on?

    Thanks again

    Dom

    1. Thanks for your comment. Great question…I believe that most movie studios are just waiting for 4K technology to be more in demand by the general public. Since 4K mastering, or filming a movie entirely using a 4K camera, is so new (only a few years old), my educated guess is that many are waiting before changing out all of their video camera equipment which is extremely expensive. 4K video cameras are super costly that are used for filming. This Post explains more if you wish… http://4kadvice.com/4kcameras

      Another great question…the good news is that 4K TVs had dropped in price BIGTIME since they first came out. This is just what happens in tech like it did with HD TVs from digital and everything else that comes out new. Prices usually drop within a year or two and thats what happened with 4K TVs. For example, I bought my 65 inch Sony 4K for $2,700 several years ago when they first came out. Dumb of me..I know b/c most people wait til prices drop. But, I was so excited about watching 4K I didnt care. Now, the same exact TV is only about $1,400.

      But for you,…perhaps you do not need that big of one. Plus mine was loaded with 3D, and SMART. Today, you can get a mid-sized 4K UHD TV name brand like Sony…40 inch to 50 inch, SMART (they are practically all SMART TVs now) for: $320 bucks. Actually, allow me to clarify below:

      – Non name brand, but perfectly good TV – 40-50 inch 4K UHD – $329 on amazon

      -Decent name brand, same specs as above for $500 range.

      – Name brand with all bells and whistles like Sony or Samsung $700 up to high end $1,200.

      I mean prices for TVs especially 4K are super, super low. You can find deals galore on Amazon. If you ever decide to switch up to 4K, please consider linking through my http://www.4Kadvice.com site. Even if you just click on any Amazon ad or box (from this site like below) and it takes you there…would help support my informative site about 4K tech. You do not necessarily have to make a purchase of any specific TV that I link on my site. If you just use any Amazon ad link I have up on side bars or within most Posts to take you to main Amazon page…I receive the same results. Thank you greatly and I would really appreciate that as I try to get my site moving forward. And, I am willing to help you with any questions or your site endeavors.

      I think 4K tvs are worth the money by far., The picture image on the screen is simply incredible. I created this site to help educate others, because when I was interested in 4K several years ago and learning…I have major difficulty finding good information online. There were very few helpful sites. So, I decided to take time out of my dayjob activities to write and help educate other people who were just like me.

      Kind Regards,

      Matt B.

      http://www.4KADVICE.com

  2. Wow….I’m glad I came across this page. For about a year, I’ve been considering getting a big 4K Sony.

    I’ve had two concerns.
    1. Would I really be able to tell the difference between 4K and a movie that wasnt’ in 4K. I’m not sure how you did it but the picture in your examples make it look like the people are standing right in front of you. The fake ones looked a bit flat.

    2. Are there enough 4K movies out their to make the purchase worth while? Now that the price of the 4K TV’s are coming down, do you think there are enough to make it worth while.

    Regardless, you’ve put me in the mood to watch a movie tonight. Thanks!

    1. Author

      Hi Sondra, we appreciate your feedback regarding this Post. Hopefully, some of our other Pages/Posts on http://www.4KADVICE.COM will be helpful to you as well in your search for 4K. Luckily, prices for big 4K Sony TVs are way, way down from the time I bought mine a few years ago. And, Sony, is the best when it comes to 4K in my educated opinion mainly because they were the first large corporation to engineer and research it. They have been doing it the longest (building 4K ‘stuff’)

      Good questions:

      1) YES, you can absolutely tell the difference between a real native 4K movie and one that is not. If a 4K movie was filmed or mastered using 4K camera then its ‘real’ or ‘native’. This creates the greatest picture image out of all other types. Including a film mastered in 2K (1080HD) which the company remastered into 4K and then calls it 4K. These are not true native 4K made movies. But, the picture quality for these remastered “4K” (really 2K made) films is still much better and noticeable over even a straight up 1080HD made film. A remastered film puts the pixels somewhere between 1080HD and 3,8204KUltra HD (which is known as 4K now). They round up the pixelation to get your 4K or 2K…as you probably realize this ;-). Yes, the images I used really dont do native 4K the justice it deserves. I snipped an image from my 4K monitor to compare it to everything less than true 4K..so that is why it looks so good. If you really saw a native 4K picture on a 4K TV…it would be even better image than the example I gave here in this Post. Its looks exactly like you are there in person. It looks like you are looking through a window right into the real sceen. The fine detail like wrinkles on skin, pores on skin, hair..makes it so real and gives the viewer a better experience overall.

      2) Most asked question…is there enough 4K content movies, tv shows? Answer: today, YES…most would agree there is plenty of 4K content to make buying a 4K tv worth the switch. Perhaps early last year this was not the case…but with technology snow-balling…there is enough good 4K content (native and remastered 4K) to keep you watching all year long. They are adding new 4K content and movies monthly also…it will only grow from here until eventually in a few years most everything will be in 4K. We have to give time for producers to switch out their ‘old’ 2K camera networks and buy 4K filming cameras. This could be another 5 years. But, honestly…once you watch native 4K movies its hard to watch anything else. So that is what my wife and I mostly do. Between streaming 4K movies on Netflix, Amazon instant video, Youtube, a Sony 4K receiver that only plays 4K movies, and 4K blu-ray disks…there is plenty of content to watch now. Its well worth switching over to a 4K TV and 4K Blu-ray / DVD player (which are only about $120 now). You can get a larger Sony 4K SMART TV today for about $900 up to $1,500. To give you an example, I bought mine for $2,800- 65 inch 4K Sony, 3D, SMART about 2 years ago. This same TV is around $1,400 now and its the top of the line.

      Here is a link to another Post I have talking about 4K content and if there is enough you might like:

      http://4kadvice.com/4kcontent

      Another thing to keep in mind is that most ALL 4K TVs today do something called UPCONVERTING or UPSCALING. This means that the 4K TV will take any picture image quality (meaning 720HD, 1080HD, etc.) and upconvert it automatically to higher pixelation. It cannot upconvert it to total 4K which would be 3,820 pixels…but it upscales it to somewhere in between like 2,500 or 3,000 pixels. Basically, what this does is make everything you watch on live TV a much better picture quality than just 1080p HD. SO, you cannot go wrong with getting a 4K TV.

      I hope that I have been helpful. Kind Regards, and PLEASE share my Posts as I try to reach as many as I can to help educate them about everything 4K. I am doing this because a few years ago when I was interested in 4k when it came out, I was able to find nothing online. I was on my own. Now, I can help educate people give them a better, quicker chance of making informed decisions about 4K on this site.

  3. Thank you for sharing Realorfake4k website. It’s always a guessing game when we go to watch what we think is the real deal 4K when you can see the difference right away that it could not be real 4K.
    Great to have a resource to turn to search the real from fake 4K.
    I know your site is about 4K video, but do you know if they do any audio remastering to these films as well?

    1. Thank you Paul for commenting on this Post! Great question…yes, I have learned that when they remaster the 2K movie (to be 4K supposedly), they include remastery of the entire audio file. Now, I asked myself this same questions a while back because I did not think the audio was as good as it should be when I watched this particular 4K movie. With a newer sound system, you can definitely tell the differences between 1080 audio and real native 4K audio when comparing a movie. So, knows per movie what they acutally do with the audio…but this is something to keep in mind and continue to research. If I locate a better answer, I will surely write you back and provide an update on the site. Kind Regards, Matt B.

  4. Very very interesting! I love movies even though I don ‘t find much time to enjoy them. But when I do I love good quality pictures. I had never heard of the difference between 2K and 4K before I read your article.
    Now I know what to look for. This information could save us money is that correct? If so how would we use this information to save us money?
    I found it also interesting that even big time films like Hunger Games were not 4K. I have never saw that movie but I bet it still looked good. What do you think of the quality of Hunger games?

    1. Author

      Great questions and comments! Thanks a lot for contributing to this Post and site. Yes, you are not alone…as most of the population are unaware of 4K and 2K and what it all means. People are just now starting to hear about 4K TVs and starting to buy them. But still, less than 10% of households even own anything at the 4K level.

      I was surprised also about Hunger Games NOT being filmed or mastered in 4K. But, after some research I learned that the movie was actually produced quite a while ago. Many years ago. This would have been when 4K was very, very early in development. Very few, if any movie makers would have even owned 4K camera systems at that time. Its still very new…to consumers (only 2 years) and for commercial applications like movie filming it might be 3-4 years. But, 4K cameras are super, super expensive. Commercial cameras behind the scenes are mega large…not very portable and super, duper expensive. Movie making companies cannot yet afford to switch out all of their 2K camera equipment and replace with million dollar 4K cameras (yet). But, It will happen in time and they will all have them. But, remember also that HD (720 and 1080) is NOT that old either. Do you remember when we starting switching from SD to HD? I never thought that a movie picture image could get better than 1080pHD. Of course, I was wrong and it totally has gotten 4 times better than 1080. I think you said you have,…but if you go and find a 4K UHD TV to watch a real, NATIVE…movie that was for sure filmed/mastered in 4K using 4K cameras….the picture image will absolutely blow your mind. I mean its simply incredible. I watch them all the time….and its like you are there. The picture is so crisp and clear that its like you are looking through a window right there at a live scene. Its like the person is live right in front you. It makes movie watching 10 times better in my opinion because it makes it very real. Especially live sporting events like football. Some netowrks have starteed testing 4K using 4K cameras and brodcast live. If you had a 4K TV…you got to enjoy a game looking at the best picture imaginable. I felt like I was at the game sitting in a bench chair. I am serious, not exaggerating either. 🙂

    2. Anyone that loves movies or sporting events would appreciate a resolution that is FOUR times greater than our current 1080 HD provides us. 4K Ultra HD is amazing.

  5. It is good to know that there is a difference between real natove 4k movies and ones that have only been upscaled.
    Thanks,

    1. You are welcome and thank you for contributing. We are educating people about 4K Ultra HD TVs and other devices. Thanks for sharing, Matt

  6. Can you provide reliable link to download 4k 2160p demos for my new tv?

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